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WHO ARE THE SAINTS?

 

Reformation Rumblings
BUFF SCOTT, JR.
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Questions For Today

Special Weekend Edition
    If you've been keeping abreast of world news, you know that the
new pope is putting the late Pope John Paul on the fast-lane
of "sainthood."  It makes no difference, of course, what God's
sentiments are in this paganistic ritual, for if the Roman Catholic
hierarchy decrees that someone be elected a saint, that's it—
regardless.  But this is the history of Roman Catholicism.

    According to Catholic doctrine, Pope John Paul cannot be elected
a "saint" unless it can be substantiated that he performed at least
three "miracles."   Now watch closely the Vatican over the next few
months and you will see a number of Catholics coming forth and
claiming that Pope John Paul "healed" them.  But you will not be
seeing legitimate miracles.  Instead, you will be viewing
counterfeit miracles.

    How do I know this?  The great apostle Paul, in prophesying
about Roman Catholicism, declared, "The coming of the lawless one
[Roman Catholicism] will be in accordance with the work of Satan
displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs, and wonders,
and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing"  (2
Thess. 2:9-10).

    Popes claim to be apostles.  To be an authentic apostle, he must
demonstrate his apostleship by performing signs, wonders, and
miracles.  "The things that mark an apostle—signs, wonders, and
miracles—were done among you with great perseverance"  (Paul, 2 Cor.
12:12). 

    So unless a pope is able to effect supernatural signs, wonders,
and miracles, he cannot be an apostle.  Pope John Paul might have
performed counterfeit miracles, but the Vatican will try hard to
manufacture and invent and devise bona-fide miracles.  Their efforts
will be futile.

    And what about this "saint" question?  Again, we see the Roman
Hierarchy devising laws that God did not author, for if a believer
is not a saint before death, he will not be a saint after death. 

    The term "saint" in the scriptures does not carry the idea of
perfection, impeccability, flawless excellence, or place one in a
spiritual celebrity status.  The core definition of "saint" refers
to one who has been sanctified or set apart to serve the God of
creation.

    Every living believer is a saint.  And not once did any apostle
write a letter to dead saints!  Their letters were written to living
saints.    Allow me to demonstrate.

    "To the congregation of God in Corinth, to those sanctified [or
made to be saints] in Christ Jesus..."  (1 Cor. 1:2).  "To the
congregation of God in Corinth, together with all the saints
throughout Achaia"  (2 Cor. 1:1).  "To  the saints in Ephesus, the
faithful in Christ Jesus"  (Eph. 1:1).  "To  all the saints in
Christ Jesus at Philippi"  (Phil. 1:1).

    All of these statements were addressed to living saints.  To
show you how deceptive the Vatican and her clergy are, I have before
me The Catholic Living Bible.  The term "saints" in all of the above
passages has been deleted.  Why?  Because to include them would be a
direct contradiction of Catholic doctrine, which says that one
cannot be a saint until he passes on.

    In closing this weekend edition, I say to my Catholic friends
and readers:  Place your allegiance in and give your loyalty to
Jesus only.  You don't need religion.  You need a relationship.  A
good, strong relationship with the Man called Jesus will save you in
the end. 

    Your pope cannot save you, nor forgive you.  Your church cannot
deliver you to paradise.  No church can accomplish that feat.  But
Jesus can!  Be neither Catholic nor Protestant.  Be a Christian
only, but not the only Christian.  Only then will you experience
freedom in Jesus.  Trust me, I know—"been there, done that."<>

 

Answer by P.J.

 

WHO ARE THE SAINTS? 

    

The Roman Catholic Church has a long standing tradition of promoting

saints as, to put it simply, the morally good dead people.

The lives of these people are supposedly put under the microscope

to evaluate their full integrity. There is a long drawn out procedure

of examining any miracles supposedly performed by these dead people.

They then are canonized and declared to be saints.

This is a very basic description of what occurs.

 

Peter Kreeft. Saints are not freaks or exceptions, they are
the standard operating model for human beings

Catholic Pages Directory: » SAINTS

We learn of the expense engendered by research into candidates' lives,

the focus on required miracles cultus confirmation

When the Church confirms the public cultus of a saint,

it means that the Church is formally acknowledging the holiness

of this person, and is saying that it is acceptable to venerate this person.

Confirmation of a public cult is one of the first steps toward canonization.

It is a slightly different process than that of the modern formal beatification,

but the person is referred to as "Blessed".

 

BEATIFICATION

 

(Latin: beatus, blessed; facere, to make) The declaration by the pope as head of the Church that one of its members deserves for saintly life as confessor or heroic death as martyr, to be entitled Blessed, that is, regarded as dwelling in the happiness of heaven. The declaration is preceded by a double process, the first consisting of an examination into the life, virtues, writings, and reputation for holiness, or martyrdom, of the Servant of God in question, conducted ordinarily by the bishop of the place in which he or she died or lived a long time. In the case of a martyr no miracles are required in this first process, but they are required for others. The second process, known as the Apostolic process, is instituted by the Holy See in case the first inquiry shows that there is a likelihood of proving that the Servant of God practised virtue to an heroic degree, or died by the heroic death of martyrdom. To go further and obtain canonization, miracles are required for both martyrs and confessors. see also:

·         Blessed

·         canonization

New Catholic Dictionary - Catholic Encyclopedia; P.C. Augustine (ed.)

saint

Dictionary

saint (sānt) pronunciation
n.

 

(Abbr. St. or S.) Christianity. A person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth.

A person who has died and gone to heaven.

Saint A member of any of various religious groups, especially a Latter-Day Saint.

An extremely virtuous person.

tr.v., saint·ed, saint·ing, saints.

To name, recognize, or venerate as a saint; canonize.

Syn: To reverence; revere; adore; respect.

Source: WordNet (r) 1.7

venerate

     v : be in awe of; "Fear God as your father"

[syn: reverence, fear, revere]

 

canonization

(M.L.: canonizare, to canonize)

Declaration of the Sovereign Pontiff that the faithful should venerate as a Saint one who had already been beatified. Beatification permits veneration of the Blessed one in certain places or communities: canonization commands it everywhere. The decree is issued only after the Congregation of Rites has accepted proof of two miracles through the intercession of the Blessed who had been formally beatified, occurring after the beatification and of three miracles for one whose beatification had taken place without the ordinary process. The Saint is now entitled to the full honors of the altar, though the Mass and Office may not be extended to the entire Church. The canonization is solemnly celebrated in Saint Peter's and a solemn novena or triduum is made in another church of the city chosen for this purpose; this same nine or three days service may be also held elsewhere within a given time following the canonization.

New Catholic Dictionary - Catholic Encyclopedia (ED.)

 

I have given these various definitions and explanations about saints

so that it can be seen that this is an important and very real issue.

 

You will have noticed that some of the terms used such as reverence,

fear, and adore are terms that can only apply to the Eternal God.

 

Having shown the process for declaring a dead person a saint.

I have to tell you that it is far easier to be unmade, that is

decannonized than it is to be canonized.

Unfortunately once a saint you are not always a saint according to this church.

When there are too many of them, some have to be dropped.

There are countless millions of people wearing or displaying in their vehicles their

St Christopher medal for protection. They are totally unaware that this

person is no longer a ‘Saint’ according to the offical catholic list.

(I am just wondering as I write whether he has been reinstated?)

It is a complex thing being a saint.

I wonder what happens when you pray to someone who is no longer a saint?

Does anyone answer?

Do they say sorry you have a wrong number, please refer to directory enquiries?

Do they say the person you have called is unlisted, sorry !

 

On reflection, I think that what happens is just the same as before,

unless an evil spirit quickly jumps in to resolve the dilemma.

 

The dead are uttlerly unable to help us in any way.

Their body is in the grave and their spirit is in the holding place

‘hades’, either the comfortable part referred to as paradise,

or the other part, a place of great suffering.

See our document ‘Destination’, and also ‘And Then You Die’.

 

The reality of what a saint is.

In the New Testament there are many references to saints.

The apostle Paul wrote many of his epistles to the saints in various

geographic locations. These people were very much alive.

Communicating with the dead is strictly forbidden in the bible.

It is called necromancy.

As the dead cannot communicate with us evil spirits quickly fill this void.

This mean that you end up talking to demons.

 

The first time we read about saints outside the gospel is in Acts.

There we see Saul persecuting the saints.

 Acts 9:13  Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man,

 how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

 

Unfortunately in the King James version there is a misleading addition.

Words in italics are added to make the meaning clearer.

They are not in the original text. 

In the following verse ‘to be’, is added to supposedly clarify the text.

It does the exact opposite and causes confusion.

It completely alters the meaning of the text.

 

It should read:

To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called saints:

This clearly defines that the beloved of God are called saints.

It is not a future event but a very present fact.

 

Romans 1:7  To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints:

Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

In the following verse we see that the saints were in need of assistance.

 

Roman 12:13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.

 

Paul went to minister to the saints.

 

Romans 15:25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints.

 

1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called (to be) saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

 

 

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

 

Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

 

2 Corinthians 13:13 All the saints salute you.

 

Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

 

Colossians 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Colossians 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

As you can see in book after book the Apostle Paul addresses the very much alive saints.

 

In Revelation we see that the prayers of the saints are very important.

 

Revelation 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand.

 

What we do as very much alive saved human beings, who are called saints is very important.

If you live as a saint, you die as a saint, but in the normal scheme of things

you have to wait until the resurrection until you have any further part in the lives of humans.

 

A saint is an obedient repentant believer who has the Godhead indwelling

in him/her.

This state is achieved whilst one is alive.

It requires no activity by any human agency to be a saint.

No dubious miracles after you are dead are required.

There are no other qualifications besides those I mentioned above.

All genuine true believers at this time can be referred to as

the saints at the end time,

the saints wherever you live assuming there are true believers there,

for example the saints in London.

 

 

Much Grace

 

           p.j.                                                                                                     

 

 

             Be Humble      Repent      Listen To The Eternal God     Obey Him.    

 

                 This is very easy to say, but I assure you that it is physically impossible,

                                         without  the empowerment of the Eternal God.

                    Attending some Church, going up to an altar call, or isolating yourself,

                             in the hope that somehow it will all be alright, will not do it. 

 

               What are you going to do about it before it is too late?

 

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