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SUPPORT WITH US THE BEATIFICATION OF JOHN PAUL II

 

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I do not agree about Pope John Paul II beatification.

If I would do it  God will consider me a GREAT LIAR,

as the Pope did not work for God but for Satan.

I know you will be against what I am telling.

In the Bible there is no one single verse about the beatification of a dead person.

The beatification and the catechism has been written by the Vatican (men)

and are against God’s Word.

Have a look at the first 4 TRUE Commandments of God and the ones of the Catholic Church.

I like to say the truth, and I am responsible for every thing I say and do before our Lord Jesus Christ.

(You too will be responsible)

Thank you

Ciao Antonietta

 

Answer

 

Antonietta in my opinion you should read carefully everything

Paul John II has done during all his life

and then you will be able to say your opinion, but do no judge. NEVER JUDGE!!!!

tiziana

 

Answer

 

I do not dare to judge as it is against God’s Commandment,

but God said that we have to tell the TRUTH. 

Ciao Antonietta.

 

Answer

 

Sorry, but what kind of Bible have you? I cite as example

only some of the many verses of the New and Old Testament

where God invites all us to the sanctification….

anyway the Vatican is the Catholic Church

and if you read deeply the Bible listen what God says:

“As Christ has loved the Church and has given Himself

for her to make it saint purifying it by the water together

with the Word, in order to let Him to appear before His Church

all glorious without spots, wrinkles or other similar,

but saint and spotless…do you know what I am telling you,

 

if you want or not Paul John II will be blessed and very soon saint,

because he has not been afraid to evangelise and for all of us he will be a model.

 

Lev 20:7  Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy; for I am Jehovah your God.

Lev20:8  And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am Jehovah who sanctifieth you.

 

1Th 4:7  For God called us not for uncleanness, but in sanctification.

 

Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:

 over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ,

and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

Answer

 

Greetings,

There is nothing to be sorry about.

If the recent pope was a saint when he was alive,

I assure you that he is a saint right now without any further

action required by anyone.

Do you really think that the great Creator God needs fragile human beings

to declare someone saint?

It does beg the question what is a saint?

Was Paul and Peter writing to a set of dead people?

 

What kind of bible I have?

 

It is not really a matter of what kind of bible I have,

but rather do I read it, and having done so, do I understand what I have read,

and do I faithfully quote it, without adding to or taking away from it as commanded

 

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,

If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,

God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city,

and from the things which are written in this book.

 

I have around 2 dozen different translations of the bible available to me.

This is immaterial if I twist it to suit my purposes.

 

I have no argument with the statement you make that the Vatican is the Catholic Church.

That is not an issue.

I do not doubt that for a minute.

You will not find the word Vatican in the entire bible,

neither will you find the words Roman Catholic Church.

Neither will you find it called the only true church.

 

You will however find a church who sits on seven hills and who is called Babylon.

 

Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written,

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS

AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

It is important to understand the words we use,

and we should also accurately quote relevant scriptures, whether Old or New Testament.

 

You will not find the word beatified in the entire bible.

 

Sanctification is not beatification.

Sanctification is by the Eternal God.

Beatification is a procedure of men.

 

Sactified means set apart for holy use.

Strongs No 37

2) to separate from profane things and dedicate to God

2a) consecrate things to God

2b) dedicate people to God

3) to purify

3a) to cleanse externally

3b) to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin

 

There is no question that we are all called to be sanctified,

and to become without spot and blemish.

That is what being a genuine Christian is all about.

 

We are called to  be transformed by the renewing of our minds.

 

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world:

but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind,

that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

 

This transformation is carried out by Christ, Himself. 

 

It is not the prerogative of a very select tiny number. 

You are distorting scripture when you say

 

“As Christ has loved the Church and has given Himself

for her to make it saint purifying it by the water together

with the Word, in order to let Him to appear before His Church

all glorious without spots, wrinkles or other similar,

but saint and spotless…..

 

because it simply does not say that.

 

These are the scriptures that you knitted together to produce the above statement.

You simply cannot play with the scriptures,

and mix and match in the manner in which you have done.

If you have a version of the bible which makes the quote which you gave

please give me the details so I can obtain one for my collection.

 

Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

 

Ephesians 5:25  Husbands, love your wives,

even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

 

2 Peter 3:14  Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things,

be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

I do not know whether it is a typing error or what you meant

 

purifying it by the water together

with the Word, in order to let Him to appear before His Church

 

Who is the Him?

that is going to be purified to appear before His Church?

It simply does not make sense.

Churches are always referred to as feminine.

Surely you cannot be saying that Christ is being purified to appear

before the Church. This makes the church greater than Christ.

 

do you know what I am telling you?

 

I most certainly have not the slightest idea.

 

if you want or not Paul John II will be blessed and very soon saint,

because he has not been afraid to evangelise and for all of us he will be a model.

 

There are many who fearlessly evangelise and are saints while they are alive.

 

I have to tell you that according to scripture our model is Christ and no one else.

 

1 Corinthians 1:12  Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul;

and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13  Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

 

Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples,

If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

 

Check the epistles and you will see that many are actually addressed

to the saints of the various areas.

Were letters being written to dead people?

 

Here are two of many examples, that saints were living people.

 

Ephesians 1:1  Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

 

Philippians 1:1  Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

 

 I hope that the above helps to put the scriptures in their correct context.

Rest assured that you are fully entitled to do whatever you feel to do whether right or wrong.

I am sure that the above illustrates completely that I am fully conversant with

the scriptures, and also that the Eternal does lead, and guide me whatever you might think.

 

You quoted keeping the statutes of the Eternal God.

 

Leviticus 20:8 And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am Jehovah who sanctifieth you.

 

My final question is why don't you do that?

Have you are some scriptural dispensation that frees you from the command which

you quoted?

 

Much Grace

 

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