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Mary being Mediator – One of two Documents.


karl de asis wrote: Thank you for that reply.


Since the time of the early Church Fathers (the very first Christians

after Christ’s ascension to heaven), this image of the woman has had a

three-fold symbolism: the ancient people of Israel, the Church and the

Blessed Mother. However, the fullness of the image is the Blessed

Mother, for she fulfills the prophecies regarding the coming of the Messiah.


There are other important reasons for identifying "the woman clothed

with the sun" as our Blessed Mother. The passage in question began with a

revelation of heaven, the temple, and the Ark of the Covenant.


Remember in the Old Testament the ark housed the Ten Commandments, the

Law of God and God’s Word. The ark also contained the priestly staff of

Aaron and a golden jar containing an omerful of manna (Ex 16:32, Nm

17:25, Heb 9:14). As the Israelites journeyed to the Promised Land, a

cloud, signifying the presence of God, would descend upon or "overshadow"

the tent where the ark was kept. Later in the Temple of Jerusalem, the

ark was kept in the Holy of Holies, the inner core of the Temple where

the Jewish people believed God dwelt.


After the description of heaven, the temple and the ark, the next verse

describes "the woman clothed with the sun." Mary is the mother of

Jesus, whom she conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. As Archangel

Gabriel announced, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the

Most High will overshadow you; hence, the holy offspring to be born

will be called Son of God" (Lk 1:35). The connection between Mary and the

Temple, the Holy of Holies and the ark is clear.


Keep in mind also that when St. John saw this vision, the ark had been

lost for over 500 years. In this vision, St. John saw the ark and then

he saw Mary. Mary carried in her womb our Lord, who is the Word of God,

the true High Priest and the Bread of Life. Truly, Mary is the new Ark

of the New Covenant, which our Lord as priest will make with His Blood

spilled in the sacrifice of the cross.

The pain, according to early church fathers, refer to the pain she

shared when she stood at the foot of the cross (Jn 19:25), a pain

prophesied by the Priest Simeon at the circumcision: "This child is destined to

be the downfall and the rise of many in Israel, a sign that will be

opposed — and you yourself shall by pierced with a sword — so that the

thoughts of many hearts may be laid bare" (Lk 2:34-35). Interestingly, St.

Paul also speaks of "labor pains" in handing the faith unto his people:

"You are my children, and you put me back in labor pains until Christ

is formed in you" (Gal 4:19). So the pain takes on a spiritual

significance, that pain in sharing in the sufferings of Christ, and that pain in

being the Mother of the Church and bringing others to her Son.






I think that this is going nowhere and is just wasting my very precious


You are free to believe whatever your teachers tell you,

including the Church Fathers, up to and beyond the Council of Nicea,

whether it is supported by the bible or not.

If you want to make Mary into a greater than Christ, so be it.


I see clear contradictions and unjustified extrapolations in your

various posts.


From your quotations

(Ex 16:32,

Nm 17:25,

Heb 9:14).

It is obvious that you have a very different bible to the one I have,

even more it is clear that you worship a very different God to the

Eternal God whom I serve.





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