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Claudio, what have you smoked before sending this document?:-))

Gianni Geraci

 


»¿This is not ecumenical,

but to give rise to heresy among us

I welcome Claudio with all my brotherly love

But this is no way to use the emailing list,

Maybe more suitable for another group!

 

Ciao Claudio from Marco

»¿I am very perplexed by this document!

Ciao to everybody

 

Answer   

 

Greetings,

Thank you for your comments.

 

The Oxford English Dictionary defines:

 

HERESY

Opinion contrary to the orthodox doctrine of the Christian Church, or to the accepted doctrine on any subject.

 


Answers.com says

adj.

1.           Of worldwide scope or applicability; universal.

2.            

a.           Of or relating to the worldwide Christian church.

b.           Concerned with establishing or promoting unity among churches or religions

The Catholic Church states that heresy is anything that is against what the Roman Catholic Church, under the Pope and the Holy Fathers teach.

It does not matter what the bible states, as their authority is greater that the bible.

Heresies are defined by whim.

In fact they oppose the bible at almost every turn, in favour of the ‘Church Fathers’.

Q. 2. How does the Catholic Church define ecumenism?

A. That question is better answered by quoting paragraph # 820 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

C.C.C. # 820 "Christ bestowed unity on his Church from the beginning. This unity, we believe, subsists in the Catholic Church as something she can never lose, and we hope that it will continue to increase until the end of time." [UR 4 # 3.] Christ always gives his Church the gift of unity, but the Church must always pray and work to maintain, reinforce, and perfect the unity that Christ wills for her. This is why Jesus himself prayed at the hour of his Passion, and does not cease praying to his Father, for the unity of his disciples: "That they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be one in us,... so that the world may know that you have sent me." [Jn 17:21; cf. Heb 7:25.] The desire to recover the unity of all Christians is a gift of Christ and a call of the Holy Spirit. [Cf. UR 1.]"

Regardless of the above,

I have to tell you that the original Greek simply meant choice, and not the distorted meanings given above, which is choose what we the Catholic church states otherwise you are a cursed heretic.

 

I have to tell you that Oneness and ‘unity’ are not the same.

You can be united and still not ‘One’.

Just think of many relationships and you will see people who are united, and certainly they are not ‘One’.

 

Please study the verse quoted above, that is John 17:21 from the Catholic Catechism.

Christ prayed that His church would be ‘One’ not that it would be united.

 

Now exactly which of the very plain words of the Rhema did you not understand?

I am not asking which words you did not like, because they touched a nerve.

Do you think that because God is Love and loves us, that He would not say such things?

Think again.

 

Is it not written that genuine believers are to come out of the False Church or bare the consequences?

 

Revelation 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying,

Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Revelation 18:5  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Revelation 18:6  Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works:

in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

 

Revelation 18:7  How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her:

for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Revelation 18:8  Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine;

and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Revelation 18:9  And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her,

shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

 

Is it not true that the New World Order plans for Europe and the world is Unity as follows

1) Economic Unity

2) Political Unity with common politics and laws

3) Religious Unity with common doctrines.

 

Charta Oecumenica point 2, § II: "We commit ourselves... to promote ecumenical learning

in Christian education and in theological training and further education."

 

Are you surprised that the former independent countries, now linked to the European Union, gradually must give up their sovereignty and come under Catholic government authority? The countries that are linked to the United Nations must also give up their sovereignty under the command of this world power.

The countries in Africa united to the African Union also will be overruled by the laws of this union. In this way we see that the countries in the world are linked together. The Bible's end-time prophecies tell us that the world powers will unite just before Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, comes again.

 

The distinguishing characteristics of the different denominations are today being worn down, and the Protestant denominations are being split up and torn apart from within, by infiltration and liberal currents. When this takes place and discontentment is created, unity will be appealing. The various Protestant denominations will first form an ecumenical unity, and this apostate Protestant block will later join with the Catholic Church.

The unity will be based upon Catholic principles, as it is Catholic powers that stand behind the unifying endeavors.

 

This has been their special task since the second Vatican Council (1962-65). This is the development we see today. We see this through the Poorvoo Treaty, the Joint Declaration, and others. On June 2nd 2002, an ecumenical service was held in St George's Chapel, Windsor, to commemorate the Golden Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth ll. The press reports showed her Majesty presiding over the signing of a covenant by four of the major protestant religions in England to express their unity, and their desire to work towards unity with the Roman Catholic Church. It was summarised on the news as the beginnings of a single Christian community for Britain.

 

The Old Testament is full of the call to Repentance and Obedience.

 

Did not the chosen nations of the Eternal reject the Words of the Eternal almost continually, and they then suffered horrendously time and time again?

Did they just like us not make the conscious decision to choose death?

Do not believe me.

I am not asking you to do that.

Read it with your own two eyes and then seek the Eternal about it before it is too late.

 

Deuteronomy 30:19  I call heaven and earth to record this day against you,

that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

 

In reality what we prefer is:

 

Judges 17:6  In those days there was no king in Israel,

but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

 

What we should be doing is this and nothing else, even if an angel from heaven tells you otherwise.

 

Deuteronomy 13:18  When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God,

to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day,

to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

 

Galatians 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven,

preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,

let him be accursed.

 

This Rhema simply repeats what Scripture already says.

If we rebel we just have to take the severe consequences.

 

If you believe in the Eternal at all, consider this.

 

          Isaiah 55:11  So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:

          it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please,

          and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. 

 

The Eternal never changes and He means what He says.

Malachi 3:6  For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

 

No one is smoking anything, but you most certainly might have been smelling smoke.

We were advised to put on many of our documents.

 YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE!!!  Come Drink Of The Water of Life.”     

 

You might have been smelling smoke much closer to home.

 

The Eternal’s House is in good shape and at Peace.

 

Finally be aware that the Eternal’s Love is Tough Love, and very real.

It is not soap opera nonsense.

Christ did not suffer horribly,

and die the most gruesome death for us to continue in our rebellion endlessly.

 

Much Grace

 

p.j.

 

 

What follows are the original comments some of them before translation.

 

Ciao antonietta

 

I have sent Peter’s document: My Judgement on All the Rebellious Churches

Here are the answers

 

Claudio, what have you smoked before sending this document?:-))

Gianni Geraci

 


»¿This is not ecumenical,

but to give rise to heresy among us

I welcome Claudio with all my brotherly love

But this is no way to use the emailing list,

Maybe more suitable for another group!

 

Ciao Claudio from Marco

»¿I am very perplexed by this document!

Ciao to everybody

 

Ciao antonietta

 

 ho mandato l'ultimo articolo di Peter a questo gruppo ( Il Mio giudizio su tutte le chiese)

Queste le risposte

----- Original Message -----

From: Gianni Geraci

To: amarecolcuoredidio@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:20 PM

Subject: [amarecolcuoredidio] Pe Claudio

 

Ma Claudio, cosa ti sei fumato prima di scrivere?
:-))

Gianni Geraci


»¿

Questo non è essere ecumenici

ma dare occasione a eresie vere e proprie di stare in mezzo a noi

accolgo Claudio con tutto l'amore fraterno

ma non sono per niente d'accordo sul modo in cui usa qs mailing list, forse una più indicata è un altro gruppo! E con ciò non voglio escludere nessuno

ciao Claudio da Marco

----- Original Message -----

From: Claudio

To: Amare

Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:41 PM

Subject: [amarecolcuoredidio] IL MIO GIUDIZIO SU TUTTE LE CHIESE RIBELLE

»¿

Mi lascia molto molto perplesso!

ciao a tutti

                                                         

p.j.                                         

 

 

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                    Attending some Church, going up to an altar call, or isolating yourself,

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