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Question
are
people who commit suicide in their right mind? is
their heart focussed on the right things? no. i do not
believe suicides go to hell. i think GOD takes into
consideration the things that are going on in their
lives and since a suicide is mentally disturbed at
that moment, would look at the heart of the person in
a normal mental state.
debra
--- Janis <adonai_olkew@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What is the outcome of a person committing suicide?
> Do they go to hell?
> Is there a 'get out of hell' clause. I am asking
> seriously and would
> greatly appreciate responses with scripture.
> Janis
>
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Answer
genuinely quote
Christ’s advice of ‘Judge not’.
Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be
judged: condemn not,
and ye shall not be
condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
As Debra said in
the first place we rarely know all the facts.
The Eternal is a
God of love and mercy.
He is not just
waiting to see how many people He could destroy,
because they have broken
some law, although of course His Word
always must be
obeyed.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack
concerning his promise, as some men count
slackness; but
is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish,
but that all
should come to repentance.
There is a great
spirit world with Satan, his many fallen angels and demons,
doing their best
to destroy us.
The truth is
that we know very little about it,
and there are
few who give us any teaching on the subject.
In fact most
teach that ‘Christians’ do not have to
worry about Satan.
This is a lie.
Christians
should not worry but rather confront the enemy at every turn.
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,
Now is come
salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God,
and the power of
his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,
which accused
them before our God day and night.
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the
Lamb,
and by the word
of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
We MUST fight not only for
ourselves and our families, and our families,
but also those whom
we know are firmly in Satan’s grasp.
Paul said we
should not be ignorant of Satan’s activity,
but the truth is
that for the most part,
we are ignorant
of Satan’s activity.
2 Corinthians 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us:
for we are not
ignorant of his devices.
We are therefore
in a battle where we know little about our enemy,
although we should
know.
The biggest
problems which we face are our very real, but invisible enemies.
When you see the
personality of someone completely change in a blink,
there is
probably evil spirit activity or some sort of mind control activity going on.
Think of mind
control as hypnosis.
The controlled
person has no idea what is going on.
I believe that
suicide can often involve demonic activity.
We have to
understand that unknowingly we can give demons control over us
by many things.
Drugs, violent
computer games, Harry Potter, various forms of witchcraft and
rock music, and
other things can open the door for evil spirit activity.
It is a known
fact that some records have messages in the music.
Long ago I was
told that on vinyl records you could hear these messages
if the records
were played backwards. Today I suppose that they just insert the
message at a
frequency which the mind can pick up,
but which your
ears cannot hear.
I really do
believe that all of this destructive technology is ‘fallen angel’ originated.
We have to know
what is going on before we can confront the problems.
The oppression
can be so great that the spirit of the person can be almost dead,
before they take
their life.
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary
the devil, as a roaring
lion, walketh
about, seeking whom he may devour:
We have
therefore not to judge by sight and hearing, because these senses
are not telling
us the full story by any means.
We were told
that Christ would operate in a different manner
to our normal
method.
Isaiah 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in
the fear of the LORD:
and he shall not
judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after
the hearing of his ears:
Therefore the
advice not to judge is truly wise.
Exodus 20: 13 Thou shalt not kill.
and that it is
an unqualified statement.
It is also true
that if you sin you will automatically suffer the consequences,
however
according to Paul:
Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but
sin is not imputed
when there is no
law.
Romans 4:15 for the law doth work wrath; for where law is
not,
neither is
transgression.
Does this mean
that there is a let out clause?
No it does not.
The Roman
Catholics have created Purgatory to solve the problem.
Every one ends
up in Purgatory even the Popes, and all can be prayed out
of there for a
cost.
This is not
biblical.
My view is that
it would be utterly wrong to assign any one to hell,
particularly
someone who might have lost a battle with an evil spirit,
and taken their
own life.
You see an
example of this when people who have committed some hideous
atrocity say, ‘God
told them to do it’, then they take their own lives.
This is evil
spirit activity.
There are a host
of other reasons which demand that we judge not.
We also have to
realize that mind control is now a higher science,
and millions of
people are doing things which they would not normally do as
their minds are
completely messed up by the wicked governments in the world,
by microwave
transmissions, subliminal insertions in TV programs,
chemical and
other means, to which we are not privy.
You have seen
people kill many people and then kill themselves.
You have heard
that these people appeared absolutely normal, even good
Christians, and
suddenly these devastating events took place.
You have seen
the reports that various substances in foods, such as additives
and colouring can
dramatically affect the behaviour of children even making
them violent.
We now have
genetically modified food to add to this awful cauldron
The mass of
paedophile activity, sexual abuse, and violence, has serious
repercussions on
those unfortunate enough to experience these things.
The hundreds of
thousands suffering in unjust wars, that have utterly
devastated and
destroyed families,
or resulted in
the most gruesomely deformed children.
These can push
‘normal’ people over the edge of hope to hopelessness.
These are all
people like ourselves with the same hopes and aspirations.
We have to be
thankful because there but for the grace of God go I.
There is no way
we can self righteously condemn these people
who have
survived these horrors.
You have seen
the reports that many prescribed drugs mess up the minds
of those to whom
the doctors have given them.
We are in the
era of the micro-chip, which can be inserted by an ordinary injection,
without the
knowledge of the individual.
These can be
used to control the behaviour of the individual, again without
their knowledge.
Countless millions
of us are being poisoned by mercury in the amalgam filling
in our mouths and
lead from various petrol fumes.
These can all
cause the brain to malfunction.
Do I think that
we should pray for the dead as a sort of insurance?
I do not think so.
The bible
teaches no such thing.
Throughout the
scriptures we can see that salvation is a family matter.
See
The document: Salvation
Is A Family Matter
It is important
that we get the true gospel out, so that people can be delivered
from the slavery
and bondage which causes them to commit suicide
in the first
place.
Many of those in
captivity are in the ‘Christian Churches’.
The harvest is
plentiful, but the labourers are few.
On our website we have just posted John
Bunyan’s, ‘Hell’.
Our feeling was that it was important to show
that hell is a reality,
but it in no way consigns any one to that
place.
It should be a prod to us to help others to
avoid this possible final destination.
My conclusion is that I do not believe for one
minute
that all suicides automatically end up in
hell.
Much Grace
p.j.
Be Humble Repent Listen To The Eternal God Obey Him.
This is very easy to say, but
I assure you that it is physically impossible,
without the empowerment of the
Eternal God.
Attending some Church,
going up to an altar call, or isolating yourself,
in the hope that
somehow it will all be alright, will not do it.
What are you going to do about
it before it is too late?
See The Video: Obedience Is The Only Way Of Escape
. The only way out of
this dilemma is Jesus Christ.
. He
is the only way of escape.
. We have to be
under His Care and Protection.
. Salvation
by any other name or means,
. Simply does
not exist.
. Complete Obedience is
required
Praise
the Lord.
. Come soon Lord Jesus.
.
Amen.