The "Black" Pope, The
Interview with Eric Jon Phelps, author of Vatican
by RICK MARTIN
Martin: Where does Satan fit
into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called
Society of Jesus?
Phelps: The Jesuit General,
and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians,
and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan.
They believe in Lucifer.
The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total dictator and
autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move. The provincials
are his major subordinates. There are around 83 provincials right now. As I
understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83 regions. Ok? For
each region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10 provincials in the
United States. There is one for Central America. There is one for Ireland.
They’ve divided up the world into these provinces. So it’s old Babylonian
provincial government, centered in Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit General
himself; so it’s strictly a Roman form of government where all the states or
provinces are subordinate to this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order. He
meets with his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an agitation, he
gets the information from the provincial of that country, how best to go about
this, the demeanor of the people, and then he uses legitimate grievances to
foam an agitation. The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials.
And the provincials then, of course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many
Jesuits who are not "professed", so many of the lower Jesuits have no
idea what’s going on at the top. They have no concept of the power of their
Martin: What is the ULTIMATE
goal of the Jesuits?
Phelps: Their ultimate goal
is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from Solomon’s rebuilt
Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal.
Martin: And why is Solomon’s
Temple rebuilt so important?
Phelps: Because the Jesuits
have always wanted that. When Ignatius Loyola first started the Order, one of
the first things he did was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit
headquarters there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed. Ignatius
Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was wounded at a battle between the French
and the Spanish, and his leg was shattered.
Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set his
mind to regain back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation. And so, he
went to the Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit Order. But this
man is a soldier, he’s a lawyer, and he put together a legion of soldiers and
warriors to get back what Rome had lost, as well as institute a World
Government for the Pope, from Jerusalem. This was in 1540. The Pope chartered
him, and that Pope was Pius III. The Pope chartered them, created the Jesuit
Order; now he has Papal protection, and they began their awful history of deeds
of blood. And war after war after war after war, they’re all attributed to the
Jesuit Order in some way.
The Jesuit General is in complete control of the international
intelligence community: that’s the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the Israeli Mossad,
the German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit General is in COMPLETE CONTROL of
the entire intelligence apparatus. So, whenever he wants to find something out
about an individual, they put in the Social Security number, and everything
from all of the intelligence apparatus kicks-in and he and his provincials can
review everything about that man. Credit cards, you name it, everything that’s
attached to Rome’s social security number, which FDR put upon us in 1933 with
the help of Spellman; at the time, I believe he was Archbishop, or maybe it was
Cardinal Hayes—but Rome was behind FDR in putting him in office.
Martin: Let’s back-up now,
let’s go back. What’s the Council of Trent?
Phelps: The Council of Trent
was the response of Rome to the Protestant Reformation. Remember—the Protestant
Reformation brought us all of the political liberty that we know of today.
There’s no such thing as national sovereignty without the Reformation. So, when
the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by grace through faith
alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood to go to Heaven—that all
we need is salvation in Christ, and Romans 1:17: the righteous shall live by
faith. When the Reformation came, it completely stripped Rome of its spiritual
power. The priests were no longer wanted because the people were getting the
word of God in a Bible, specifically in Holland, England, and Germany.
Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of money.
The nations were not paying "Peter’s pence" anymore, which today we
call "foreign aid" in this country. And so the Pope was very upset
about his. Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church of
England; he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in England,
in Germany, in Holland, and other places.
The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse
and condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who does
not believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy communion
bread], and that his literal blood is in the wine. That’s called
transubstantiation. Anybody who does not believe that is an accursed anathema.
Anybody who believes that their salvation is outside the Catholic Church is
accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that the Pope is not the vicar of
Christ—accursed, anathema. Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers were
preaching. This is all in Law called the Council of Trent.
In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the
Jesuits condemn freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of
conscience. So, no man has the right to choose his own religion; no man has the
right to publish what he feels is the truth; and no man has the right to
freedom of conscience.
Martin: Council of Trent was
Phelps: From 1545-1563,
eighteen years. And Trent is a little town in Italy. So, it was a Council that
took place in the town of Trent, Italy.
Martin: Pope Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order entirely in 1773, and
was murdered as a result.
Phelps: Correct; he was poisoned. Pope Ganganelli abolished the Jesuits with a
Papal Bull; the Jesuits call it a "brief". It is not a brief; it is
in the Library of the Bulls, and it is called Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor. That
is the name of a bull. And when he abolished them, he abolished them
forever—that they were not to talk about their abolition, that they were not to
teach. He confiscated all of their wealth and land and property. For the most
part, the Dominicans took it over, which is why the Dominicans had their penis
cut off during the French Revolution. That’s what the Jacobins did to them. It
was payback by the Jesuits: "You don’t dare take our property from us,
boy. And you don’t dare take Inquisition from us." Jacobins killed nearly
every Dominican in France.
Martin: Regarding the
assassination of President John Kennedy, which could take this entire
interview, you say that the assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General,
executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried out by the "American Pope",
Francis Cardinal Spellman—who, in turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner
Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to
carry out the order from Rome. Would you explain why you believe your
particular theory on the assassination to be an accurate representation of the
Phelps:The reason why Kennedy was assassinated
was he wanted to end the Vietnam War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA.
That begets two questions: Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control
the CIA? The answer is yes on both counts. The man who was the Commander of the
American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of
Columbus, I don’t know, but he was General William Westmoreland.
Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war was
prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal
Spellman’s boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a 33rd-degree
Freemason. He was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another
33rd-degree Freemason. Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was
controlled by the Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the
Vietnam War? The people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They
would not convert to Catholicism. They didn’t need Rome.
There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had
been decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be
"purged". They would later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol
Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos, Cambodia, and
Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged the Buddhists of China
with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled by the Jesuits.
So, they wanted the Vietnam War.
The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The
Vatican controls all of the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all
of the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia. Columbia has a concordat
with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler had a concordat.
Mussolini had a concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to set up a
concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the
sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was
Ronald Reagan. The whole drug trade is run by high Mafia families out of the
country of Columbia, subject to the Jesuit General.
The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive drug-trade
that would inundate every American city with drugs, being brought in by the CIA
with their Air America, and then distributed by the Trafficante family
throughout the United States—Santos Trafficante out of Miami. So we have the
Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We have the Mafia and the
CIA working together in the assassination of Kennedy.
The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist
Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to end the
Vietnam War. The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA,
because the CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving
the cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic,
Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—he was a bastard, his father was a
Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which
sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so Castro
had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the CIA and the KGB
at the top, working together with Angleton controlling it, in the Hungarian
Revolution, when the CIA fomented that revolution, and then betrayed all of
those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and KGB, which infuriated
certain top CIA officials. It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and
you sacrifice the men who truly want to resist. When that happened, when
McGeorge Bundy stopped the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended
that resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of course, it
was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now Kennedy
looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He signs a
Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away from
the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into
the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe. When
the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS and
purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately killed
40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he kicked out his best generals, purged
them, because he wanted to make sure that the Red Army would lose with the
advance of the German army, because following that would come the SS and purge
Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the way, justice is often
poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a Jew.
Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the
intelligence arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey
was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were through
and through. Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk
within the CIA that has a direct link to the Vatican.
So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That
was the end of him. For attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the
Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank by
printing United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only Roman
Catholic president. And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman
Catholic—not Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic
who truly sought to resist the temporal power of the Pope in this country. And
in many ways, even though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at
least he resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we should be
thankful and remember his name.
And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the head
of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and they reverse
Kennedy’s Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale, carte
blache war. The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a
CIA war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity
machines, their men who they’re trying to make like the "million-dollar
man". They tried out all their new technology in Vietnam. It was a great
experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew that the
American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried to resist
it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most powerful
Knight of Malta in the Empire.
Martin: Do you believe that
Great Britain is truly Protestant-controlled, Jewish-controlled, or
When Napoleon came to power, he was brought to power in Corsica. When
the Jesuits were suppressed, one of their main outposts during their
suppression was the Isle of Corsica. The Jesuits, remember, had finished the
High Rites of Freemasonry with Frederick the Great, and then used their French
Freemason Napoleon to execute their vengeance.
However, the Jesuits were also protected during their suppression in
England. A very wealthy landowner—and you can find this in Ridpath’s History Of
The World—gave his wonderful, beautiful estate Stonyhurst to the Jesuit Order.
And from then on, the Jesuits received protection by King George III, and you
will find that in Mitchell’s The Jesuits. Mitchell is an English historian. Ok,
so the Jesuits are now protected by King George III. Well, they’re going to
uphold his throne. The Jesuits use the English army and navy in the resistance
of Napoleon, as both sides are controlled, so that the Jesuits can control the
The end result is that, after Napoleon accomplishes everything that the
Jesuits want him to do—the expulsion of the Knights of Malta, the driving of
the Roman Catholics from their throne, imprisoning the Pope for 5 years,
etc.—Napoleon is then ordered to abandon his army in the snows of Russia,
killing all of those French and German patriots, so that there are very few
patriots left in Europe to resist the tyranny coming in France with Louis
XVIII, who the Jesuits will put back on the throne. Louis XVIII was in exile,
in England, in King George’s own parlor, waiting for the end of the Napoleonic
Wars. So, the Jesuits put Louis XVIII back on the throne. He readmitted the
Jesuits, started the Inquisition, just like they did with Ferdinand VII when
they restored him to power in Spain after the Napoleonic Wars.
And where do these monarchs get their protection? From King George III.
King George was used by the Jesuits to restore their power in Europe, after the
Napoleonic Wars, after they punished the Pope and the monarchs.
When Rothschild sent that note, via Roost, into London, saying that
Napolean had won the Battle of Waterloo, that’s when the stocks plummeted, and
all the Jesuits bought all the stocks up, there in London, and got control of
the Bank of England. The Jesuits then made London their commercial center of
the world, and Rome their religious center, aiming that one day Jerusalem would
Martin: Let’s talk about
Phelps: Elizabeth II is a
wicked, evil queen. She is the head of the Knights of Malta in England. She
curtsies to the Lord Mayor in Old London, and she goes and visits the Jesuits
of Stonyhurst and kisses their derrières. She has complete allegiance to the
Jesuits of Stonyhurst, and will do anything they tell her to do, or they’ll get
rid of her just like they got rid of all the rest of the monarchs in Europe.
Martin: Alan Greenspan, then,
Phelps: Alan Greenspan is a
Jew, probably a Freemason, because he is the leader of the Temple called the
"Federal Reserve Bank" and they always put Jews in the forefront—so
that they can blame all of what they do on the Jewish race in this country, to create
an anti-Semitism everywhere, just like Charles Coughlin, the radio Jesuit
priest of the ’30s did.
The Zionists—the Jesuits are the Great Zionists. They control all of the
historical High Zionists—Theodor Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir. Zionism
is a Masonic term, coined by the Jesuits. They are the rulers; they are the
Protocols; they are the Elders of Zion. So the Zionists are, indeed, evil and
wicked; but they are controlled by Rome. The Jews are not all Zionists.
The present government of Israel was set up by the High Masonic
Rothschild-controlled Jews, and Rothschild has had an alliance with the Jesuit
General since 1876, with Adam Weishaupt. This is the very same Rothschild
powers who betrayed the Jews into the hands of the Nazis, killing many Jews all
throughout Europe, betraying their own Jewish people. These are the very same
powers that run the nation of Israel today. I read a very interesting paragraph
by Mark Lane in his book Plausible Denial when he tells about a Jew in Israel
who wrote about certain criminal Jews, involved with the Nazis, who are now
with the Mossad.
So, Rome controls the Israeli government. It controls the Israeli
government through the Mossad. Who trained the Mossad? Reinhard Gehlen. So what
do we have? We have high-level treason and betrayal of the Jewish race; that is
there in Israel today, by their own leaders, who are loyal to Rome and the
Jesuit Order. And to show this, we have a great big Rockefeller edifice in
Jerusalem; we have an ophthalmology center in Jerusalem run by the Knights of
Malta. There’s nothing but Knights of Malta, high-level Freemasonry, and the
Jesuit Order running all of Israel.